womenagainstfeminism

womenagainstfeminism:

oh and what a surprise. The feminist-biased media is basically saying we are too stupid to make our own choices without feminism and evaluate modern feminism with our own minds:

So here are some of the articles on us:

BuzzFeed (this is the one that started the hate fest on us)

The entire “argument” against #WomenAgainstFeminism is like telling everyone who isn’t a Republican that they just don’t understand what “republic” means. 

neoliberalismkills

neoliberalismkills:

contrary to popular (read: straight) belief, choosing your gender or sexuality instead of being “born that way” is both possible and valid

Thanks for supporting gay reparative therapy.  When you say sexuality is a choice, you’re directly contributing to the incredibly high suicide rate among gay teens who are constantly being told by fundamentalist parents and preachers that they simply need to choose to be straight and failure to do so makes them weak and deserving of eternal torture.

I hope your special snowflake oppression points are worth it.

kakrikoran

kakrikoran:

otherkinlogic:

whew ok i made a powerpoint thing for nounself pronouns…..

i’ve really been wanting to try and help others understand these pronouns? so i made this ah!! i hope it can help. if anyone has questions, feel free to send me a message and ask. 

You have one problem with your post.

The words you say are pronouns, aren’t actually pronouns. They are nonsense words. :D Good job for being nonsensical!

One problem?  ONE PROBLEM?????  I think you need to go back and count again.

If you’re just terrible at math and I’m being ableist, I sincerely apologize.

It is bizarre to me that people on here have to be told things like:

- A mood/emotion is not the same thing as a gender. 

- A species is not the same thing as a gender. 

- A mental illness is not the same thing as a gender. 

- An inanimate object is not the same thing as a gender. 

Being sad doesn’t mean your gender is “sad”.  Liking nuts and trees doesn’t mean your gender is “squirrel”. 

Tumblr’s collective lack of understanding of what “gender” means is appalling.

trans-dyke

can we talk about the phrase “earn a living” and how deeply fucked up the idea we’re expected to justify our existence through work and wages is though?

trans-dyke:

Okay I’ll bite.

Is it really ethical to be forced to work in order to obtain adequate shelter and food? Like as a sentient being, I need those things to continue to exist. I have no way of getting them at all reliably besides selling some of my life and labor. To people who have much more.

Another one of those posts that I’d love to think of as a Poe.

If nobody had to be “forced to work” to obtain food and shelter, where would the food and shelter come from?  We don’t have a magical food and shelter fairy that will provide for the human race.  Somebody has to be forced to work, and to demand that it be other people instead of you when you’re fully capable of working is one of the least ethical things I’ve ever heard.

feminism-fuck-yeah

feminism-fuck-yeah:

feminism-fuck-yeah:

feminism-fuck-yeah:

I think that if someone feel like something is inherently offensive you ought to reword whatever you said.

Like, if a POC came up to me and said “what you are doing is racist and I don’t appreciate it”, the first thing I would want to do is make…

Hi, POC here (Latina, Nicaraguan if you wanna get specific). Sam and Kieran were not saying that white people should just listen to POC without thinking for themselves. They meant that in discussions about race POC voices should be prioritized. Just how in discussions of sexual orientations MOGAI people’s voice should be prioritized, etc. The message that Sammie was trying to convey is that white people should sit back, close their mouths, and hear what we have to say, since POC, ya know, experience racism every day and understand it way more. Then voice their opinions and concerns. That’s called a discussion. The problem that has been happening though is that white people (or any privileged group) tends to speak over POC (or any oppressed group). Sam was just saying that she believes oppressed groups voices need to be heard, and I 100% agree.

Also, how is saying that people should listen to POC’s experiences with racism, racist? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I proof read what Kieran was going to post before he did, I was just too tired and wasn’t up to clarifying Sam’s post. There are no “white knights” on FFY, just people that understand oppressed people’s voices need to be heard. Why’re you so against that?

-Jazmine

This post just gets more awesome.  While you’re saying:

Sam and Kieran were not saying that white people should just listen to POC without thinking for themselves.

Sam is saying:

Never question when someone who is under discrimination finds something harmful in your words or actions.

While you’re saying:

The problem that has been happening though is that white people (or any privileged group) tends to speak over POC (or any oppressed group).

They are literally speaking for POC (and other oppressed groups) and giving a message that is decidedly different from the one in your own post.  As a member of one of those “other oppressed groups”, I think they ARE trying to be a white knight - showing how enlightened they are by telling all their fellow privileged to shut up and just do what they’re told.  Personally I think that if I’m offended and can’t explain why in a coherent way if someone challenges me, then I didn’t have much of a reason to be offended in the first place.  Their posts certainly don’t reflect my point of view, but they’re trying to speak for all oppressed groups. 

You won’t get any argument from me that listening is a good thing.  Dialog is a good thing.  Exchange of ideas is a good thing.  Trying to shut down dialog by telling entire groups of people that they aren’t allowed to speak or ask questions is the opposite of helpful.

feminism-fuck-yeah

feminism-fuck-yeah:

feminism-fuck-yeah:

I think that if someone feel like something is inherently offensive you ought to reword whatever you said.

Like, if a POC came up to me and said “what you are doing is racist and I don’t appreciate it”, the first thing I would want to do is make them comfortable. I would fix what I did. Because me being comfortable is way less important when it comes to a situation where I have the privilege.

Never question when someone who is under discrimination finds something harmful in your words or actions.

-Sam

Okay there are soo many trolls and whatnot reblogging this so I thought I might just weigh in here and clarify what I think Sam was trying to say. Obviously she didn’t mean do everything an oppressed person says. What she’s trying to get at is valuing oppressed people’s feelings rather than her own (when she’s in a position of privilege).

It’s important to recognise that in a position of privilege you won’t be as offended by certain things as people of marginalised groups will. They are the ones who know more about the oppression they face, and we should always be listening to them. When being called out on something you should listen to these oppressed people and shouldn’t just brush it off because you may think what they’re saying is ridiculous.

Obviously reason comes into this. If you were doing something like just breathing and someone said “that’s racist!” she wouldn’t stop fucking breathing. Although I think this is more the trolls just trying to be funny and argue rather than people actually misunderstanding Sam’s point.

TL;DR, the point of the post is that as a privileged person, your views and your comfort are not as important as the oppressed person’s feelings, experiences and opinions on certain situations.

If any of the other mods want to weigh in on this, they can. I probably missed a few points out.

-Kieran

It is so interesting that the most racist person posting on the topic is calling everyone else trolls.  You’re sitting here and saying that people of color are so fragile and delicate that their “feelings, experiences and opinions” need to be raised above everyone else’s.  They need Kieran and Sam from the feminism-fuck-yeah blog on Tumblr to be their white knights and educate others.  How would they ever get by without you convincing everyone to place their comfort above our own?

Do you really think you’re doing any favors to people of color?  Civil rights leaders would be ashamed of you acting like dialog is a bad thing.  Discussion is what changes minds.  Ordering people to obey without question just fuels resentment.

klingondays

klingondays:

“carnist : “I could never be vegan, I like cheese too m-“ me : “SHUT UP. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. SHUT IT. SHUT. IT.””

I LOVE that this person’s sidebar starts off with “I’m 24, vegan and socially awkward, but not in an endearing way.”

That is almost exactly how I would have described them if all I had seen was this one post.  Though I probably would have guessed 16 instead of 24.

(via andyoushouldfeelbad)

Hahaha 16???

Don’t take it the wrong way - I find your self-awareness of your social awkwardness really refreshing.  My guess would have just been a bit younger because you don’t run into many adults who just start yelling “shut up” over and over again when they meet someone who likes cheese.

meltheatist

meltheatist:

fenchfletcherthefurfag:

truscumpissbaby:

enbykitten:

*this term was reclaimed from a truscum, and its name was changed because it was ableist.*

circum is latin for ‘around’ or ‘in a circle’ meaning that our gender is a circle that goes around, for example; from cafab to…

This is like tumblr on hard mode man.

This is just a magnificent post.  Seeing people trying so hard to be “trans” is so ridiculous its almost endearing.

I’m trying to imagine how hard someone would be laughed out of the room if this reasoning was used in other circumstances.  “Yes, I was assigned being “white” at birth, but I’m actually a white man who was supposed to be born in a black body.  I was meant to transition to white (which I am) from being black.  I should have had to fight to be seen as white, so I’m totally a person of color.”